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Ilderforum => Ernæring => Emne startet af: tzari Dato 7. September 2009, kl. 01:00

Afstemning
Spørgsmål: Bruger du foder med bht/bha
Valg 1: ja det er ren propaganda det skulle være skidt stemmer: 0
Valg 2: ja er jo så små mængder der ikke sker noget stemmer: 0
Valg 3: ja andre kvaliteter ved foderet opvejer det stemmer: 2
Valg 4: nej lader mistanken være nok stemmer: 4
Valg 5: har ikke taget stilling stemmer: 0
Valg 6: aner ikke hvad det er stemmer: 6
Titel: BHT og BHA holdning
Indlæg af: tzari Dato 7. September 2009, kl. 01:00

Hvad er folks indstilning til BHT og BHA(e320 og e321). Det er under stærk mistanke for at være kræftfremkaldende og foder allergi fremkaldende. Men som altid med den slags er der både undersøgelser der bekræftiger og modbeviser.

En del producenter gemmer det under eu/ec godkendte antiodioxanter hvilket jo indikere de VED stofferne er omdiskuterede siden de har et behov for at skjule dem.

lidt viden
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Lidt kemisk viden om BHT
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Butylated_hydroxytoluene (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Butylated_hydroxytoluene)
CitatButylated hydroxytoluene (BHT), also known as butylhydroxytoluene, is a lipophilic (fat-soluble) organic compound that is primarily used as an antioxidant food additive (E number E321) as well as in cosmetics, pharmaceuticals, jet fuels, rubber, petroleum products, electrical transformer oil[1], and embalming fluid.
http://findarticles.com/p/articles/mi_m0NAH/is_4_33/ai_100732356/pg_2/
CitatMaking You Sick?

Food additives can cause a
surprising number of health
problems. If you experience one or
more of the following symptoms
(which represent just a sampling of
the potential problems additives can
cause) and your doctor has ruled out
other possible causes, food additives
may be to blame. Eliminate these
likely suspects from your diet to
see if your symptoms improve.
bht og bha står på disse punkter ved mennesker:
Breathing problems,High cholesterol,Liver problems,Reproductive problems

http://www.whfoods.com/genpage.php?tname=george&dbid=107 (http://www.whfoods.com/genpage.php?tname=george&dbid=107)
Citatsince then, BHT has been shown to induce tumors in the stomach and liver in animals when used at high levels.
CitatBHT and butylated hydroxyanisole (BHA) are being investigated for their
ability to damage genetic material. In addition, research has shown
that these compounds can rupture and damage red blood cells as well as
stimulate symptoms of chemical sensitivity.
http://www.articlesbase.com/nutrition-articles/what-are-bha-and-bht-and-why-are-they-in-my-pets-food-973666.html
CitatStudies dating back to 1974 have shown that BHA and BHT increase the
risk of cancer, accumulate in body tissue, cause liver enlargement, and
can retard the rate of DNA synthesis and cell development. The fact
that BHA and BHT accumulate in body tissue is of special significance
to the health of our pets since they tend to eat the same diet day
after day. Dr. Janet Starr Hull believes that BHA and BHT are
unnecessary additives to our food and should be avoided because they
may cause cancer.
BHT/BHA and Ethoxyquin (kan ikke lure om det er om alle 3 eller kun nr 3 stof)
http://www.purelypets.com/articles/whatsinfood.htm (http://www.purelypets.com/articles/whatsinfood.htm)
CitatHumans who were working with it in the rubber industry,
reported a dramatic rise in such diseases as liver/kidney damage, cancerous skin lesions,
loss of hair, blindness, leukemia, fetal abnormalities and chronic diarrhea. In animals it
has been linked to immune deficiency syndrome, spleen, stomach and liver cancer, as well
as the above mentioned diseases. The steady increase in animal cancer and serious diseases
has paralleled the increased use of chemical preservatives in the pet food industry during the last twenty-five years!

Så har i lidt link at kikke på google er fyldt med guf om de 2 stoffer
Titel: Sv: BHT og BHA holdning
Indlæg af: Black Diamond Dato 11. September 2009, kl. 01:06
Nu har jeg undersøgt det en smule i aften. Og det er de færste produkter man kan få et klart svar på om det indeholder BHT og BHA.. syndes det er svært at vide hvad man skal undgå når ingen vil sige om de har det i fodret..
http://www.ilderforum.dk/forum/viewtopic.php?f=38&t=6527 (http://www.ilderforum.dk/forum/viewtopic.php?f=38&t=6527)
Her står lidt om hvad jeg mener..
Titel: Sv: BHT og BHA holdning
Indlæg af: KittAnderson Dato 11. September 2009, kl. 09:22
Meget af royal canins foder indeholder det. Derfor bruger vi Pro Nature, eller first choise, som er (næsten) udelukkende natur produkter. Kan klart anbefaldes. Ihvertfald til Hund.
Der findes også et killinge foder, som måske kan bruges til ildere.
Titel: Sv: BHT og BHA holdning
Indlæg af: tzari Dato 14. September 2009, kl. 12:35
Nej de er ret gode til at gemme de 2 stoffer. Kender ikke ret mange andre der går under 4 forskellige betegnelser  :nej: Hvad siger i andre til det  :dans: